Fwd: [GreenMap] Are you ready to test CartoDB?
Dear Transformappers!
Here Wendy sends some new infos about the new plattform for Greenmap.
She asked me to correct my last mail, to clarify, that Greenmap-Icons are not yet released as opensource but their are still discussing how to make it. It is a challenge to change the direction of an 20year experienced organisation, where so many people spend their time for...
*@Techniqians: What do you think about using cartoDB and improve it? Should they go for it? Should we do it too? Should Greenmap better wait for our plattform? *
*Who, apart from Michael and "onYOURway" is actually developing some softwarecode for a mapping plattform? * Thanks Helmut
-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- Betreff: [GreenMap] Are you ready to test CartoDB? Datum: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 22:08:31 -0400 Von: Wendy Brawer web@greenmap.org An: list serv greenmap@greenmap.org
hello Mapmakers,
Thanks to Thomas Turnbull, we have a great resource for technically-minded Green Mapmakers to test, and further develop.
He has been testing the CartoDB mapping platform with data exported from Open Green Map, as you can see here - http://cdb.io/1E46C6K http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fcdb.io%2F1E46C6K&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHDZZ0TsCnA0gi2SGJRt8i8vUy3Zg
at this doc (no password needed) you'll also find his detailed tutorial https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SkPJF4eO5C_NmenligqoqDEv_S6DHMUxKOkEeUx5Fyw/edit?usp=sharing for exporting your Open Green Map into CartoDB and customizing how it looks. It's remarkable how many things you can do with your map once it's on https://cartodb.com/
Many things have yet to be styled (or built), but CartoDB, which is open source, gives us the opportunity to build what we need together.
Right now, we welcome the participation of people with technical skills. I'm not equipped! but I'm ready to help people get together, and make something wonderful that benefits all of us and the world we share.
You can share how you did it on https://github.com/greenmap (which is, according to this beginners guide http://opensource.com/life/15/2/beginners-guide-github)is a place where every developer (or aspiring developer) can share their source code and stories with the world. In this way we can continually build an ideal Green Map platform on CartoDB together. Translation can be done this way too.
You can add comments right to the tutorial https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SkPJF4eO5C_NmenligqoqDEv_S6DHMUxKOkEeUx5Fyw/edit?usp=sharing page, and we can also use this for discussion: http://lab.greenmap.org/groups/cartodb/
It will take time. But together! we can do it.
Please let us know you are contributing on the Tutorial page, GitHub or at the Lab, and let's enjoy working together this new way - thank you all!
best wishes, Wendy
-- Wendy E. Brawer Founding Director
Green Map System http://GreenMap.org
web@greenmap.org +1 212 674 163
Dear List and all,
sorry for spamming, but Helmut and Wendy please see below the kind of questions we still need from your and all communities regarding
* http://editor.transformap.co or * http://mmm.3oe.de
plus all the others later. I suppose we'll just run our own CartoDB and uMap instances soon'ish, if that answers the question.
Go ahead, #15mmm just got a bit more mature by help of #ccamp15,
j*
Am 04.04.2015 um 11:13 schrieb Helmut:
Dear Transformappers!
It is a challenge to change the direction of an 20year experienced organisation, where so many people spend their time for...
*@Techniqians: What do you think about using cartoDB and improve it? Should they go for it? Should we do it too? Should Greenmap better wait for our plattform?
-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- Betreff: [GreenMap] Are you ready to test CartoDB? Datum: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 22:08:31 -0400 Von: Wendy Brawer web@greenmap.org
hello Mapmakers,
Thanks to Thomas Turnbull, we have a great resource for technically-minded Green Mapmakers to test, and further develop.
we can also use this for discussion: http://lab.greenmap.org/groups/cartodb/
Where is the login button?
Hi,
sorry for the late reply and thanks @Jon for the reminder ;-)
On 04/04/15 11:13, Helmut wrote:
Dear Transformappers!
Here Wendy sends some new infos about the new plattform for Greenmap.
She asked me to correct my last mail, to clarify, that Greenmap-Icons are not yet released as opensource but their are still discussing how to make it.
I am responsible for the maps on demo.transformap.co. I have included the icons with ©Greenmap. Only the code is released under PD, not the icons. Is that okay for you?
It is a challenge to change the direction of an 20year experienced organisation, where so many people spend their time for...
*@Techniqians: What do you think about using cartoDB and improve it?
Improving it? Is it Open Source? If you are talking about https://cartodb.com/, this seems not to be the case.
Should they go for it?
It depends on Greenmap's needs. At the moment we are using a Semantic Mediawiki (which is an independent instance and not linked data yet), and our second platform is using OpenStreetMap directly.
I haven't dug into CartoDB yet, but it seems to be closed source and using its own databases (maybe even hosted on a proprietary service).
I personally would appreciate it if Greenmap would be using OpenStreetMap directly (as we do), but this limits mapping to objects suitable for OSM.
Should Greenmap better wait for our plattform?
There is no “full grown” ecosystem around TransforMap yet, and it will take some time (think of years) until this is the case.
It doesn't have the functionality yet Greenmap would need - but we would be very happy if we join our resources for developing a common platform!
Should we do it too?
I would prefer to use 100% Open Source solutions and to facilitate the “Linked Open Data” approach (as we already do with OSM).
I strongly urge to use OSM directly for all geodata. But if cartoDB is Open Source, I would give it a try for using it for other entries like events.
*Who, apart from Michael and "onYOURway" is actually developing some softwarecode for a mapping plattform?
This is Thomas (@toka in discourse) who is responsible for the Semantic Mediawiki, and me (who is doing all the OpenStreetMap stuff).
Thanks Helmut
Thanks, Michael
-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- Betreff: [GreenMap] Are you ready to test CartoDB? Datum: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 22:08:31 -0400 Von: Wendy Brawer web@greenmap.org An: list serv greenmap@greenmap.org
hello Mapmakers,
Thanks to Thomas Turnbull, we have a great resource for technically-minded Green Mapmakers to test, and further develop.
He has been testing the CartoDB mapping platform with data exported from Open Green Map, as you can see here - http://cdb.io/1E46C6K http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fcdb.io%2F1E46C6K&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHDZZ0TsCnA0gi2SGJRt8i8vUy3Zg
at this doc (no password needed) you'll also find his detailed tutorial https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SkPJF4eO5C_NmenligqoqDEv_S6DHMUxKOkEeUx5Fyw/edit?usp=sharing for exporting your Open Green Map into CartoDB and customizing how it looks. It's remarkable how many things you can do with your map once it's on https://cartodb.com/
Many things have yet to be styled (or built), but CartoDB, which is open source, gives us the opportunity to build what we need together.
Right now, we welcome the participation of people with technical skills. I'm not equipped! but I'm ready to help people get together, and make something wonderful that benefits all of us and the world we share.
You can share how you did it on https://github.com/greenmap (which is, according to this beginners guide http://opensource.com/life/15/2/beginners-guide-github)is a place where every developer (or aspiring developer) can share their source code and stories with the world. In this way we can continually build an ideal Green Map platform on CartoDB together. Translation can be done this way too.
You can add comments right to the tutorial https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SkPJF4eO5C_NmenligqoqDEv_S6DHMUxKOkEeUx5Fyw/edit?usp=sharing page, and we can also use this for discussion: http://lab.greenmap.org/groups/cartodb/
It will take time. But together! we can do it.
Please let us know you are contributing on the Tutorial page, GitHub or at the Lab, and let's enjoy working together this new way - thank you all!
best wishes, Wendy
-- Wendy E. Brawer Founding Director
Green Map System http://GreenMap.org
web@greenmap.org +1 212 674 163
CartoDB is declared open source, but the license is ambiguous:
https://github.com/CartoDB/cartodb https://github.com/CartoDB/cartodb/blob/master/LICENSE
Best, Adrien
On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Michael Maier < Michael.Maier@student.tugraz.at> wrote:
Hi,
sorry for the late reply and thanks @Jon for the reminder ;-)
On 04/04/15 11:13, Helmut wrote:
Dear Transformappers!
Here Wendy sends some new infos about the new plattform for Greenmap.
She asked me to correct my last mail, to clarify, that Greenmap-Icons are not yet released as opensource but their are still discussing how to make it.
I am responsible for the maps on demo.transformap.co. I have included the icons with ©Greenmap. Only the code is released under PD, not the icons. Is that okay for you?
It is a challenge to change the direction of an 20year experienced organisation, where so many people spend their time for...
*@Techniqians: What do you think about using cartoDB and improve it?
Improving it? Is it Open Source? If you are talking about https://cartodb.com/, this seems not to be the case.
Should they go for it?
It depends on Greenmap's needs. At the moment we are using a Semantic Mediawiki (which is an independent instance and not linked data yet), and our second platform is using OpenStreetMap directly.
I haven't dug into CartoDB yet, but it seems to be closed source and using its own databases (maybe even hosted on a proprietary service).
I personally would appreciate it if Greenmap would be using OpenStreetMap directly (as we do), but this limits mapping to objects suitable for OSM.
Should Greenmap better wait for our plattform?
There is no “full grown” ecosystem around TransforMap yet, and it will take some time (think of years) until this is the case.
It doesn't have the functionality yet Greenmap would need - but we would be very happy if we join our resources for developing a common platform!
Should we do it too?
I would prefer to use 100% Open Source solutions and to facilitate the “Linked Open Data” approach (as we already do with OSM).
I strongly urge to use OSM directly for all geodata. But if cartoDB is Open Source, I would give it a try for using it for other entries like events.
*Who, apart from Michael and "onYOURway" is actually developing some softwarecode for a mapping plattform?
This is Thomas (@toka in discourse) who is responsible for the Semantic Mediawiki, and me (who is doing all the OpenStreetMap stuff).
Thanks Helmut
Thanks, Michael
-------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- Betreff: [GreenMap] Are you ready to test CartoDB? Datum: Thu, 02 Apr 2015 22:08:31 -0400 Von: Wendy Brawer web@greenmap.org An: list serv greenmap@greenmap.org
hello Mapmakers,
Thanks to Thomas Turnbull, we have a great resource for technically-minded Green Mapmakers to test, and further develop.
He has been testing the CartoDB mapping platform with data exported from Open Green Map, as you can see here - http://cdb.io/1E46C6K <
http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fcdb.io%2F1E46C6K&sa=D&sntz=...
at this doc (no password needed) you'll also find his detailed tutorial <
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SkPJF4eO5C_NmenligqoqDEv_S6DHMUxKOkEeUx5...
for exporting your Open Green Map into CartoDB and customizing how it looks. It's remarkable how many things you can do with your map once it's on https://cartodb.com/
Many things have yet to be styled (or built), but CartoDB, which is open source, gives us the opportunity to build what we need together.
Right now, we welcome the participation of people with technical skills. I'm not equipped! but I'm ready to help people get together, and make something wonderful that benefits all of us and the world we share.
You can share how you did it on https://github.com/greenmap (which is, according to this beginners guide http://opensource.com/life/15/2/beginners-guide-github)is a place where every developer (or aspiring developer) can share their source code and stories with the world. In this way we can continually build an ideal Green Map platform on CartoDB together. Translation can be done this way too.
You can add comments right to the tutorial <
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SkPJF4eO5C_NmenligqoqDEv_S6DHMUxKOkEeUx5...
page, and we can also use this for discussion: http://lab.greenmap.org/groups/cartodb/
It will take time. But together! we can do it.
Please let us know you are contributing on the Tutorial page, GitHub or at the Lab, and let's enjoy working together this new way - thank you
all!
best wishes, Wendy
-- Wendy E. Brawer Founding Director
Green Map System http://GreenMap.org
web@greenmap.org +1 212 674 163
-- Michael Maier, Student of Telematics @ Graz University of Technology OpenStreetMap Graz http://osm.org/go/0Iz@paV http://wiki.osm.org/Graz http://wiki.osm.org/Graz/Stammtisch
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